Comment by desi starr on January 30, 2010 at 9:29 pm
great video. really well done.
actually, your blog is very thoughtful as well and a great resource.
anyway, i’ve been so excited to see the missional renaissance that we are experiencing here in north american church thinking. what a breath of fresh air for all of us who have been a part of the church calling the world to come to us but rarely seeing our identity as a community of sent people or people on mission.
my only critique or push back against the missional church is that often the focus has been on us being cultural geniuses who exegete our cultures and therefore know what we are to do based upon what is the most appropriate way to contextualize the gospel. while this can work at times i believe that Jesus laid out for us the key to understanding His ministry in Jn 5:19 when He said He does nothing of His own initiative but only what the Father shows Him.
it is my thought that in light of Jesus’ own statement about His utter dependance on the Father to set the agenda, that we need to be people who simply live our lives as those who listen to God, do what He says and teach others to do the same. as we do, i expect we will see greater missional fruitfulness as the byproduct of us being first and foremost the listening church, than we ever would if it was up to us to be missional by our own strategic planning.
your thoughts?
Comment by Brad Brisco on January 30, 2010 at 9:46 pm
Desi, I agree completely. There is much here to say but the bottom line is that we must begin with the issue of discernment. We must start by discerning where and how God is working/moving in our local context. To do this we must, as you have pointed out, learn to see and listen. This is why in the “What is Missional” article I state that we need to start with Spiritual Formation, which would involve the issues mentioned. Thanks for stopping by and commenting. BTW, a couple of friends and I are working on a “missional” prayer guide that I hope will assist us all in moving in this direction.
Comment by desi starr on January 30, 2010 at 10:21 pm
brad,
i’d love to see your missional prayer guide when your done.
send me a message on twitter, or email or my blog to let me know when you are done with it.
thanks a ton. i look forward to more interaction in the future.
oh, check out this video from our organic church network here in denver illustrating how mission flows from listening to God. http://ow.ly/12cUr
desi starr
desistarr.com
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Comment by Andrew Feil on January 31, 2010 at 7:57 pm
great video. I shared it in my circles… good stuff…
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Comment by desi starr on January 30, 2010 at 9:29 pm
great video. really well done.
actually, your blog is very thoughtful as well and a great resource.
anyway, i’ve been so excited to see the missional renaissance that we are experiencing here in north american church thinking. what a breath of fresh air for all of us who have been a part of the church calling the world to come to us but rarely seeing our identity as a community of sent people or people on mission.
my only critique or push back against the missional church is that often the focus has been on us being cultural geniuses who exegete our cultures and therefore know what we are to do based upon what is the most appropriate way to contextualize the gospel. while this can work at times i believe that Jesus laid out for us the key to understanding His ministry in Jn 5:19 when He said He does nothing of His own initiative but only what the Father shows Him.
it is my thought that in light of Jesus’ own statement about His utter dependance on the Father to set the agenda, that we need to be people who simply live our lives as those who listen to God, do what He says and teach others to do the same. as we do, i expect we will see greater missional fruitfulness as the byproduct of us being first and foremost the listening church, than we ever would if it was up to us to be missional by our own strategic planning.
your thoughts?
Comment by Brad Brisco on January 30, 2010 at 9:46 pm
Desi, I agree completely. There is much here to say but the bottom line is that we must begin with the issue of discernment. We must start by discerning where and how God is working/moving in our local context. To do this we must, as you have pointed out, learn to see and listen. This is why in the “What is Missional” article I state that we need to start with Spiritual Formation, which would involve the issues mentioned. Thanks for stopping by and commenting. BTW, a couple of friends and I are working on a “missional” prayer guide that I hope will assist us all in moving in this direction.
Comment by desi starr on January 30, 2010 at 10:21 pm
brad,
i’d love to see your missional prayer guide when your done.
send me a message on twitter, or email or my blog to let me know when you are done with it.
thanks a ton. i look forward to more interaction in the future.
oh, check out this video from our organic church network here in denver illustrating how mission flows from listening to God.
http://ow.ly/12cUr
desi starr
desistarr.com
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Comment by Andrew Feil on January 31, 2010 at 7:57 pm
great video. I shared it in my circles… good stuff…
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